Should the tasks start date be removed?

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What do you think? Is the start date useful when we also have a creation timestamp?

Yes, it's useful
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No, take it away
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Total votes: 12
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Should the tasks start date be removed?

Postby mschering » Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:23 am

I think the tasks start date should be removed. It only brings confusion because the only relevant date for a task is the due date. Then we can add a couple of more filters to the right side:
  • Show completed
    Show overdue
    Show due in 7 days
    Show all future tasks
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Re: Should the tasks start date be removed?

Postby rosetta » Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:31 am

I agree with you, Merijn - it should be removed.

IMHO the new filter rules should also be applied when the tasks are shown on the summary page.
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Re: Should the tasks start date be removed?

Postby mbach » Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:55 am

Especially because the task module is quite basic (e.g. sorting and priority is completely missing) the start date is essential, because the task is only shown, when you need it. Otherwise all future tasks are in the list.

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Re: Should the tasks start date be removed?

Postby mschering » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:07 am

Hi Markus,

With the new filters it will be possible to hide all future tasks without a start date. We will also add a priority field in 3.6.
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Re: Should the tasks start date be removed?

Postby gregoire » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:23 am

I already played with a svn version of group-office. What will be the start date if the start date is removed? The day it is created? What if you have to correct that particular start date? As it is implemented now a task can't be dragged and dropped (from day 1 to day 2). Will this then be possible?
Why not use a datepicker as a filter to see what tasks are in the future? Click on a date and a list with tasks appear relevant for that date.
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Re: Should the tasks start date be removed?

Postby rosetta » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:46 am

gregoire wrote:What will be the start date if the start date is removed?
I feel the main point is that a task by concept should not have a start date. The only relevant date for tasks is the due date. You can start doing the task whenever you want - the main concern is that you complete the task before the due date.

This is why there is no field for start date when entering tasks on my mobile phone....

I think the task module in GO is very advanced. By using the "Continue task" function you can change the due date, alter status etc. And everything is collected in a very useful activity history.

Adding a priority field and ditching the start date field will make it perfect :D
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Re: Should the tasks start date be removed?

Postby gregoire » Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:22 pm

eagle wrote:
gregoire wrote:What will be the start date if the start date is removed?
I feel the main point is that a task by concept should not have a start date. The only relevant date for tasks is the due date. You can start doing the task whenever you want - the main concern is that you complete the task before the due date.

This is why there is no field for start date when entering tasks on my mobile phone....

I think the task module in GO is very advanced. By using the "Continue task" function you can change the due date, alter status etc. And everything is collected in a very useful activity history.

Adding a priority field and ditching the start date field will make it perfect :D
Thanks. Now I get it.
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Re: Should the tasks start date be removed?

Postby mschering » Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:31 pm

Did you cast a vote?
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Re: Should the tasks start date be removed?

Postby gregoire » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:15 pm

In my phone it does have a start time though.
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Re: Should the tasks start date be removed?

Postby mbach » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:26 pm

Don't you think, that the start date would be useful for documentation purposes?
So you will see, when the task did start?
Or will there be also a better history, to see, what happend to the task in the past.

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Re: Should the tasks start date be removed?

Postby mbach » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:47 pm

Or maybe there should be a field for the estimated duration of a task.
So it makes no sense to see the due date, if you do not know, how much time you will probably need.

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Re: Should the tasks start date be removed?

Postby mbach » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:49 pm

Please make the filters configurable like status in project.
Also make it possible to filter by status (which is self-definable).

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Re: Should the tasks start date be removed?

Postby mschering » Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:36 am

Isn't the creation time of the task just as good as a start date?
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Re: Should the tasks start date be removed?

Postby gregoire » Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:56 am

I was wrong. I can only set the Day in my phone. But a task needs a start-at moment even if it's just for history checking.
Checked my nokia phone (a fine phone in my opinion;-)) and there are 4 items of which 2 are relevant; Meeting (with time and date), and Task (only Day, no time, with priority) Task doesn't expire unless it's checkbox is "checked". So, if there is a sync moment in the future for GO with Tasks maybe this would be the right format. In my opinion of course.

EDIT: I voted to keep the date (unless there is an alternative).

EDITagain: mixed up duedate and start date.
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Re: Should the tasks start date be removed?

Postby mbach » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:28 pm

Creation date can be long ago.

Example: Create a task or task list or maybe subtasks (in the future ?!? ;-)) for a marketing event.
Marketing event is in 6 months.

Start date of each task should be 4 weeks before.
No chance with creation date.

Best advantage with a start date: you do not see any task, that will bother you (in the future).
So you just type in the task for a future event and you can forget it!

That's really easy and should also be possible, if you want to remove the start date.
So please keep it or find a good alternative (and find a date, which is not the same with creation date)....

Thanks for your discussion, Merijn!

Cheers, Markus

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